I’m tired of reading comments about the fact that if a dog is aggressive is not the dog’s fault but is the owner that should be trained and spanked instead…ok ok.. but think for a second more:
What if a certain breed carried a seed of insanity or genetic problem that could be common among the dogs who belong to that breed?
This question puzzled my mind as I was buring my beloved dog “Pulce” after she was brutally attacked by the male Akita of my next door neighbour.
It was the second time.
The first time, two years before, my brother’s dog “Arthur” was litteraly devoured by the two Akitas after they “sucked him on their side of the fence”.
A total of four attacks occoured on my property, perpetrated by those “killer Akitas” on two more separate attacks, my sister’s dog “Chicca” barely made it alive after two months of suffering in a nearby clinic, after the two attacked her upon escaping from the fence of my neighbour.
Here is the post I wrote when the facts happened with the pictures of Pulce and Atrhur :http://piodalcin.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/akita-inu-dogs-attacked-and-killed-my-puppy-again/
I received many emails telling me that probably wasn’t the dog’s fault but it was the owner’s.
So I ran a research on the Internet which can be done easily by anybody, and found out that:
1) Akita Inu were used by Japanese Emperors in the 18th Century for hunting Bears.
2) Not happy with their agressivness, the Japanese mixed the Akita Inu Breed with another breed used for dog-fighting.
3) A Rabies pandemic spread through Japan involving the new bred Akita dogs, and their total suppression was ordered for security reasons. Obviously it failed a few thousand and the Akitas that we love now in the movies could be the grand-grand children of those aggressive dogs.
DO NOT COME AN TELL ME THAT IT’S THE OWNER’S FAULT.
Please don’t. Consult any veterinarian and ask them what they think of Akitas.
Those Dogs are aggressive by genetic trasformation, and nobody is going to make me chance my mind. I swear it on the grave of those two beloved dogs that I loved so much and I have lost to the fury of two AKITA INU.
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I’m so sorry for your puppies. That is really sad. I read Akitas are one of the dogs closest to the “wild” first ancestral dog, they still have a stronger instict than most breeds. They are stubborn and independend and this all makes them VERY hard to train. Many people get a dog based on the way they look, and Akitas look pretty cute, let’s face it.
So although I AM sorry for you, (I really am, it’s so sad for those little dogs) it’s not the breeds fault. The owner should have realized what kind of dog he was getting, and should have properly trained them. It is the human who is responsible for the presence of those dogs in your neighborhood and for their agression.
When properly trained they are wonderfull dogs.
So basically, I agree that Akitas are not as cute and cudly as they seem, andCAN potentially be dangerous (especially against other small dogs), but I strongly disagree with claiming it’s the breeds fault. Generalizing is wrong!
As for those specific Akitas in your neighborhood they should be rehabilitated, and if that is inpossible, put down. Dangerous animals should not be in a familly environment, the owner is a terrible person. Many dogs get put down every year because the owner didn’t know what kind of dog he was getting and didn’t bother to train them.
PS: Don’t really see how the rabies is an argument for them being dangerous?
PS2: Akitas are listed as dangerous dogs by some government and the owner is liable for a suit (methinks).
Yes there are SOME Akitas out there that are dangerous. There are also collies (plenty of them) that have killed sheep, cats etc. ANY dog can be aggressive if not trained properly. Can i say that i have had experience with at least 30 Akitas and only one of them i would say was dangerous. This dog had been tortured and starved by its owner so was put to sleep!!! I currently have 3x Akitas and a rotti in this house. They are all super loving with anyone they meet. I have these dogs to PROVE to people how lovely the breeds are WHEN they have been brought up properly
I have to say i find this thread ridiculous. If you want to talk about dangerous talk about humans. THEY are the ones that kill their own kinds with knives, guns etc.
It sounds to me that those dogs next door to you are NOT typical examples of the breed. As for the bear hunting, they were trained to corner and hold bears so the owner could come along and shoot them. How is this different to a sheepdog ????
“This makes me think that there are some Akitas out there that can be potentially dangerous like the ones thatr killed my puppies”
Replace the word Akitas with Dogs and you have a truer statement. Dangerous individuals exist in a number of species, but that doesn’t make the species somehow dangerous in general. An untrained dog is always a danger. Hell, I was just bit by a Chihuahua this weekend, but I wouldn’t condemn the breed because of it.
First let me say I am so sorry about your dogs and the other ones that were killed by your neighbors Akitas.
Fact, yes they had a rabies pandemic as you stated but that is not inclusive to the Akita Breed only in Japan. It also affected the Tosa too. Fact, any dog has the capability to injure.
Rabies had no play in changing the temperament of an animal other than it being a disease, it does not mutate the DNA of an animal to spread craziness in future generations.
As for your neighbors, they need to be flogged and they need to be be penalized by not being allowed to own any dog much less one that is a thinking dog. A Chihuahua would be dangerous in their care from what it sounds like. The fact is I have owned three Akitas and all three were professionally trained at a great expense to me and to make sure that my dogs understand who is the boss. Growing up my parents raised me with two Dobermans and believe me back in the late 70′s and 80′s that bred along with German Shepherds were the bad breed and dangerous breed. Now everyone wants to gang up on Pitbulls, Akitas, Staffies and so forth. It is a fact that you get what you put into your dog. Not everyone should own an Akita just like not everyone should have children. The are intelligent and therefore command more respect. Anyone that is intelligent and owns an Akita knows that you socialize them to respect Animals and other humans. My five year old Grandson commands both of ours and they treat him as if it were us giving them the commands.
It hurts to see post like this when not only you have suffered a great loss due to the negligence and the could care less attitude from your neighbors. My breed is not a bad breed. The ones who are unfortunate are the ones who have stupid owners that do not know how to handle a dog. And last but not least I have been attacked by dogs twice in my life both were Dachshunds and to the point where one did nerve damage in my hand and the other ore my upper lip up to the point I had to have a bunch of stitches. No, it isn’t the dogs fault for the ignorance of an uneducated an ignorant owner. However, the dog pays for their owners ignorance and usually with being destroyed.
Again, I am sorry for your loss. But please don’t condemn my breed for the ignorance and stupidity of your neighbors.
First I would like to say that I have had an Akita in my life since I was 5 years old. I have had experience with many other Akitas other than the ones the I owned personally.
Good job with finding out their history, it must have been an exhaustive search for you, you can find this information on the AKC wedsite.
I would like to ask you a few questions,
1) I dont understand the connection you are trying to make with the Rabies pandemic and the agressive akitas we now love today? what does the Rabies have to do with it?
2) yes, they did mix them with a more agressive dog because they needed protection from bear back in the 1800′s. this is not the first and only breed that was mixed to be a little more agressive to protect its people.
3) what type of dog do you own? I bet I could probably find some bad things about that dog, thanks to the interent
if you look for bad things, you will find them.. that is the beauty of this day and age, you can find what you are looking for.
also, I would love to talk to your vet. I have 2 akits right now and my vet and the techs couldnt be more thrilled when they come in.. they have their pictures up in the office and they know what their favorite treats are and what type of toys they like, becase they always have one ready for them to take home.
I blame people, not dogs. how can you blame the dog when the OWNER has clearly done nothing to fix the problem? and why havent you done more to follow through on you apparent anger with them? press charges?
and finally,
It is people like you and people like your neighbors that ruin breeds. not dogs. educate yourself and take care of things, on your end to prevent them from “getting ahold of your dog”. they are dogs, and they do follow their instinct, thats why as a dog OWNER you TRAIN them and YOU provide a safe home for them. you want to own a dog, it is your responsiblity to take care of it.
talk to me when your akita acts crazyly. Or when one of them gets divoured by another dog. do not trust them they are insane
First I have to say how sorry I am to hear about Pulce.
And then I have to ask you a couple of questions:
Where the Akitas that kept attacking your dog kept in a yard or allowed to run loose?
Was your dog kept in a fenced yard or allowed to run loose?
The onus is on the owner to keep their dog under control. Akita can be an aggressive breed and as such the owner has a higher responsibility for controlling their dog.
You can’t blame the breed and state it is in their genetic makeup. Running down elk and killing them is in every dogs makeup. All dogs have a certain amount of prey drive.
Likewise it is in every dogs bag of tricks to dig and make dens.
There are countless numbers of deep seeded behaviors that are trained out of dogs on a regular basis. Aggressive breeds can be trained if done properly.
If you don’t believe me please look to Best Friends (Commonly known as dog town do to the Discovery channel show.) The Vick fighting dogs were labeled un-adoptable by courts and many so call societies that claim to protect animals.
A grand majority of the Vick dogs were rehabilitated and live with loving families now.
The biggest problem with these so-called killer breeds is that if they are not trained properly and controlled properly by their owners; the possibility for severe damage is high.
What would have resulted in stitches if other breeds had been involved can result in death.
But what do we do? Do we condemn all breeds that are capable of killing?
It is imperative that those who own dogs capable of doing horrible damage be responsible owners. I am all in favor of mandatory training for those who own these “killer” breeds and registration of those owners. If they want to act irresponsibly at least register them and hold them accountable.
Just don’t blame the dog…
We have had an akita for 12 years now without incident. There are a few things that responsible akita owners should know.
1. Akitas are a very dominant breed, and do not play well with other dogs.
2. They are protective of their “family members”
3. They have a strong “prey drive” so, they should not be left to wander off-leash. They will probably give chase to any small animal (rabbit, cat, small dog, etc..)
4. They are very good escape artist. The owners need to be diligent about keeping them in a secure fence when letting them roam in the yard.
I do feel very bad for your loss. I would definitely put most of the blame on your neighbors ignorance of the breed.
I own a female american akita, also own a male mastiff mix mut. The Akita is probably one of the most loyal dogs I have ever owned and has in turn trained the male how to protect my house and when he gets out of line puts him in his place. Akitas are aggressive by nature and a owner should take extra time in training and breed like an Akita. With any large breed of dog with a protective loyal nature the owners should not neglect the fact the dog is still a dog. Being a responsible owner is extremely important. But I will say they are loyal to the owners , friends and family , socialize them as you would with any dog and use stern commands. I love my Akita and is the best pet i have ever owned!
I agree that is the owner who needs to train the dog. But as for the akitas that literally “devoured” my two small dogs I have no feelings. They are just behaving as their nature teaches them. What really bothered me was the fact that despite four different attacks suffered by my dogs inside my property, the owners had the atrtitude of ” Ohh I’m so sorry…” and accidents kept repeating till the death of my small two pounder dog Pulce. So the blame on the owners of course. Yet a study I made throughout the net showed that Akitas were used as hunting (bear) dogs by the Japanese Empereros in the 18th Century, and later they were bred with a fighting dog to make them more agressive. The Akitas suffered a major rabies outbreak in Japan in the 19th Century and they were exterminated (not totally I see though) to avoid spreading the disease to other breeds. This makes me think that there are some Akitas out there that can be potentially dangerous like the ones thatr killed my puppies